Thursday, October 16, 2014
Cap U to have advance voting polls
Fantastic! Kudos to CNV council for backing the idea. It's about time. As reported by the North Shore News Cap U will have advance voting polls on Thursday, Nov. 6 from 9 AM to 2 PM for both the District and the City. Voting will take place at the Capilano Students' Union library lounge. The CSU is also organizing round table talks for students to discuss municipal issues that affect them. The CSU is also hosting two all-candidate meetings on campus on Tuesday, Nov. 4 from 11:30 to 1 PM. District candidates will meet in the First nations gathering space and the City candidates will meet in the adjacent library lounge.
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Hey that's great... I didn't know Cap U students are paying property taxes now... Fantastic.
What? Most don't pay taxes and we are encouraging them to select the councils? Is that reasonable?
@12:25 Only property owners deserve a vote? I remember when that was the case, back when women and visible minorities weren't allowed to vote either. Is that reasonable?
I'm saying that taxpayers should fear efforts to influence the councils by ANY non-taxpayers, including people who don't live here, corporations, labour unions, developers etc.
I'm not seeking to disenfranchise anyone, I just don't get the logic of actively seeking out voters who are not ultimately responsible for the costs of the decisions. We should be focusing on young families, not students that may never contribute back to the community.
This is the push of some on Council wanting to be the voice of the 'young' in the community, not to mention 'children and family' most engaged councillors. In the City it passed unanimously - how could anyone have voted against it and not be accused of being 'anti-young people'. More games.
Anon. 1:33
"...not students that may never contribute back to the community."
What? These students are registered voters in whatever municipality they live.
What is your problem with providing them a more accessible way to vote?
If they pay rent, they're paying property taxes. What kind of idiocy is this, suggesting students can't vote in the community in which they reside? I can't believe anyone would even suggest it! What next, a caste system?
Nobody said can't, I did say the priority should be to get better voter turnout amongst the taxpayers first.
60% of CapU students live on the North Shore, and most of those are living at their parents houses.
Who cares whose house they live in. Why should priority be given to a property owner over a renter or adult child who lives at their parents? We're ALL tax payers, regardless of property ownership.
What can I say, I want to pay less tax. The best way to do that is to have a council that is beholden to tax sensitive people. Renters may be rent sensitive, but they don't complain to the council about property taxes, they complain to their landlord about rent. Yes everyone contributes somehow but the people that don't see a direct link between their cost of living and the expenditures of their municipality distract from the issue which is clearly Municipalities are increasing their spending faster than they should.
What makes you think renters aren't tax sensitive? Sweeping generalizations like yours do nothing to support any argument you're trying to make.Are you speaking for all property owners? Your sensitivities may be completely different from other property owners. A retired property owner may have an entirely different set of municipal spending concerns compared to that of a twenty-something property owner. Your sensitivities don't take priority over any one else's.
Sweeping generalizations work more than you would like to admit, but I concede there are risks in making generalization. As an example, when I say that you are always wrong, technically you only have to be right once for me to be wrong, but obviously that doesn't make you more right than me so I win.
I have never heard a sub let renter complain about property taxes. I hear them complain about high rents all the time. Its not a stretch. Yes in commercial buildings 'renters' tend to be more tax sensitive but that is because they typically pay triple net and see the tax bill directly. Basement dwellers don't typically see the actual breakdown and year over year comparisons so they tend to be less tax sensitive.
Ah, so now you've relegated renters to the class of 'Basement Dwellers'...
"@12:25 Only property owners deserve a vote?"
I think anyone willing to receive and accept legal responsibility for a property tax bill should be able to vote on how that money is spent.
If that's renters...then fine. Let renters register as responsible for an agreed upon percentage of the total tax bill where they reside, and they ought to be voting. Otherwise... what do they have to vote about?
What makes you think that the rent they pay isn't being used by the landlord to pay the property taxes? I know that the rent I collect from my tenant pays for a good chunk of my annual property tax bill. Like I said earlier, everyone pays taxes. Whether that be directly or indirectly shouldn't have any bearing on whether a person can vote or not.
This is a massive red herring.
Renters have had the right to vote in municipal elections for decades.
What is unclear is Cap U students since some meet the residency requirements, some don't.
When my daughter was attending Carleton she qualified federally but not provincially or muncipally. There were two federal elections during her time in Ottawa and she registered and voted as a North Vancouver voter in both of them.
But anybody suggesting renters can't vote locally is either confused or deliberately stirring the pot. If City and District feel there's enough voters at the U to warrant a voting station good on them.
I think they would have more luck placing a poll in the middle of Lynn Valley Mall.
Is it true the city is using electronic voting machines out of the U.S. at a addional cost of $50,000.00?
Why don't you phone them and ask?
I did but I ran into a bureaucratic nightmare and couldn’t get any answers. So much for transparency. I think it’s time for change. Get out and vote
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